Prime for Android
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codynpatterson
on Friday, February 28, 2014 - 10:19am
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Friday, February 28, 2014 - 10:19am

Are you planning to port Prime to Android eventually? I use an iPad for sheet music and it is my preferred tablet of choice for sheet music... but I'd love to be able to use my android tablets for prime since they aren't in use. This Sunday I had to go ipadles with my sheet music so that we could use it for prime and give it to the drummer... just wondering :).

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Friday, February 28, 2014 - 1:23pm

+1. I would love to have prime for Android.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 - 9:35pm

Think of the ever growing market. Android would open up a huge new sector of growth for loops in worship and what better place to enable that than Loop Community?

Thursday, March 13, 2014 - 5:22pm

+1 for Prime in Android

Any answer?

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 11:18am

No answers -_- haha. Think of it this way. More people use android then iOS devices... I use both but that cause I HAVE to use ios for all these apps because they DONT make them for windows or android. Like what the heck haha.

Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 12:13pm

Sorry guys - we're discussing!

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 12:26pm

Cody,
I use my NEXUS 7 and LIVKONTROL app to remotely launch clips. It's an app that is tailored for Ableton, and works with iPad or Android . If you have Ableton, this is a great asset. There's a free version, an upgraded version that you pay for, and a Pro-version that is still very reasonable. I started with the free one, moved up to the mid-level, and loved it so much that I got the Pro-version at half price since it was an upgrade special.

Check it out, if you're interested. It's on Google Play, or:
http://www.livkontrol.com/

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 12:53pm

Would you be willing to pay for an Android version? If so, how much?

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 1:11pm

If it works with Looptimus, I would pay $5.99

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 1:50pm

I understand and would be willing to pay for it, but would it be fair to ask the same price as anyone getting it for iPad? Isn't it a free app for iPad owners?

What about making it free for both platforms on a basic limited version, and a low price (for Android AND iPad) for a full version?

You could grandfather the present users who have it, and start the new two-step offering from now on. Traffic to this site will increase, and everyone here would benefit from that.

Android is presently in a narrow lead in the open market with the amount of people using it. I recently read that they have about 54% of the market over iOS with about 44%. However, as more Android based tablets hit the markets every day, that lead is bound to widen. (Most people are motivated by price.)

Yes iPad took the lead with the innovation and kept it for quite a while now, but after innovation comes a flood of the competitor. Windows and Android are selling HUGE amounts because of a lower price point. Notice I'm not arguing that Android is better, just that there are more of them now.

The bottom line is not the fact that the tool is better, it's just that the creative person using the tool is what makes the difference. Successful developers open the way for everyone to produce and draw more followers to their site. This creates leverage for you.

Think about it... if you don't diversify, I bet someone else will.

Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 1:59pm

Nelson - appreciate the feedback. The choice to invest in the develop is far more complex than simple market share and diversification. Appreciate the position though and as I said - it's something we're discussing.

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 2:00pm

I also would like to add this...

Before I found this site, my church (on my recommendation) bought a year membership to multitracks.com and I downloaded premium tracks every month. As our library filled however, we stopped. Now, I either buy here or make my own.

In the meantime I preferred using this site because it's more "user friendly" and offered an opportunity for me to upload and sell some of my work. The other guys offer that too, but I don't see a lot of user-made tracks there. They seem to be primarily interested in commercial grade multi-tracks, and that's okay... there's a place for that too.

This place is more conducive to my growth in producing loops for worshiping God. That's important to me and I appreciate all you folks do for that.

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 2:04pm

I would hazard a guess that the market share of iOS devices among church musicians is significantly higher than the general public.

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Thursday, March 20, 2014 - 2:30pm

No argument there. I agree Andy.

However, that is eventually going to change.

The "smart money" will be those who find ways to offer services to either platform simultaneously. Why eliminate anyone from something that is so good as leveraging technology for spreading the gospel?

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Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 4:37am

+1

I'd pay $10 easily worth as much as Onsong

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Wednesday, March 26, 2014 - 5:14am

I'd pay $10 for sure. In response to Andy: I have 5 people with windows phone 8, 4 on Android, and 4 on iPhone on my team. I'd say it's pretty evenly split haha.

Monday, April 28, 2014 - 1:55pm

I´d pay $10 too, for sure.

Saturday, May 10, 2014 - 7:38am

$10+. I'm currently budgeting to buy an iPad only for use with Prime. If I knew an Android app was on its way I would gladly wait and save $100's. That I'm willing to spends $100's extra in the first place just use Prime is a huge compliment to the loopcommunity team. I agree that it should be free eventually like iOS app but I'm also happy to "donate" to the cause. I guess I could sell my new looptimus to fund it. :(

Wednesday, July 2, 2014 - 9:38am

I'd pay $10 for an Android app. I agree with what's said here about offering multiple options. FYI my team members use both iPhones and Android phones with a pretty even split. I just bought an Android tablet for use at home because it was cheaper. My church has an iPad that we use to interface with our soundboard. I'd rather buy a cheaper Android tablet to run the Prime app then have to get another more expensive iPad that's used for just one purpose.

Wednesday, July 2, 2014 - 3:41pm

$10 for sure. Even $20 if necessary. I'm at a small multisite church that uses volunteer worship leaders (I'm the only staff worship leader). I'd rather buy an android app for those who lead on Android rather than buy them iPads from our limited budget.

Would like to note that the free iPad version has led to us purchasing $20 multitracks on loopcommunity. Even though I'm a long time Ableton user I wouldn't have gone to multitracks if Prime wasn't available b/c it's much quicker and easier to get my volunteer leaders up & running on Prime rather than Ableton.

Love it - thx!

Tuesday, December 30, 2014 - 2:37am

I would pay at least $10 for it. Possibly significantly more if it included additional features like real time looping and such. Pleeeeease do it!

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Tuesday, December 30, 2014 - 4:22am

I'm all for this! But I'm willing to wait for it. Bless you guys, Matt, Mike, your whole team are incredible!

Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 2:02pm

I would pay for the app. I use Android exclusively every Sunday to play my loops for worship. Usually I make my own with an awesome app called Caustic. I would definitely use Prime more and purchase more of the loops on here if it were available on Android.

Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 3:14pm

Brand new to this site, just minutes old in the knowledge that this tech is available as "loops for the rest of us". The looptimus looks amazing. Just saw it on the worship initiative site. It could definitely work for those of us leading in smaller churches. The idea of paying for an Android app is much more appetizing than having to purchase a brand new iPad to use Prime. The way you've made loops accessible is truly amazing. Now to figure out how to fund the purchase of all the tracks I want and the looptimus.
Keep up the good work people!

Tuesday, March 31, 2015 - 9:53pm

Its been a year since Mike said they are discussing. Any updates on the possibility of this happening?? Please say yes. And don't make it an April Fool's joke..

Thursday, June 11, 2015 - 4:31pm

Any updates on getting Prime for Android?

Wednesday, August 19, 2015 - 2:21pm

Any updates on prime for android. We use this app for our worship team to practice songs and it would be great to have this on andriod.

Monday, December 7, 2015 - 11:46am

i would pay 10 bucks as well since i will save all that money not having to buy a mac computer ipad or iphone. We run SAC instead of a analog soundboard at our church which is PC only.

Monday, December 7, 2015 - 11:48am
Thursday, January 14, 2016 - 12:21pm

any word on an android app yet?? Most of my team members are on android. any chance of this happening? hello? anybody?

Thursday, January 14, 2016 - 12:30pm

I'd agree with Mikee Kiesz. This has been a discussion thread for almost 2 years now. I know you all are busy, but there seems to be a bias showing toward Apple/Mac products that doesn't fit with the way that many of us function. Could you please SERIOUSLY look into developing an Android version of Prime?

Thursday, January 14, 2016 - 1:37pm

Double agree. I posted a year ago for a follow up to my post a year before that. No updates, no response. Which, to be honest, is a little messed up since we were all asked for a response to whether or not we'd pay for an app. A "no this isnt going to happen" would even be welcome to pure silence. And even if charging for the app wouldn't pay for the cost of porting this to Android, you could open up this resource for many other churches and leaders who can't afford iPads and the revenue you would get from track purchases should easily pay for it in the long run.

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Thursday, January 14, 2016 - 2:45pm

Hey guys,
We're working hard to develop many new features for the iOS version.
Android development is not something we are pursuing at the moment.

Tuesday, February 9, 2016 - 1:25am

you have to be kidding me. I can't believe that you guys would leave such a huge chunk of the smart phone population out of the loop. (ouch sorry, bad pun). But serious, that is alot of cash my band, my church and alot of my friends wanted to spend on this stuff left on the table. HUGE mistake.

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Tuesday, February 9, 2016 - 7:51am

^ cash? The app is free and development costs them money...

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Tuesday, February 9, 2016 - 9:53am

Mikee, let's be realistic. LC isn't some huge company making lots of money. They can't afford to hire extra developers to create code for a far more complicated OS. Android has hundreds of phones and different sizes that are being used at any time. Imagine having to code to that to make sure it worked correctly on all devices. Plus on top of that Android user are known not to pay for apps. So it is likely it would be a poor investment for Loop Community even if you want an Android version. Them not wasting money on a far less used OS in the worship industry makes plenty of sense.

Tuesday, February 9, 2016 - 10:52am

You are right, being new to the LC maybe I don't understand how their system works. I just assumed they got money for the content we pay for on their site, that we then in turn play on their free app. But maybe somebody can shed some light on what kind software we are talking about in the app? Does Prime have client Specific functionality? Is it something like RESTful API that they just need to write the client side? Would they have to port the entire library over to Android?

But they would not be 'wasting money' nor time. And saying Android users are not known to pay for apps is a bit narrow minded at best. I am not trying to start a phone race war. Both systems are good and have their own flaws. But in my experience owning both Apple and Android on various projects, both musical and otherwise, I have found that Android OS is a tool, while iOS is more like a toy. Again, just my experience and I am not trying to be inflammatory. I'm just trying to point out that being excluded from something based on OS sucks.

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Tuesday, February 9, 2016 - 10:59am

I understand it concern Tiffany and I don't represent LC. However knowing who pays for what and who uses what is very important. There are for more worship nuisance and especially worship pastor's or leaders that use iOS devices then android that is just simple fact, go to any modern chute and you will find that their staff primarily uses apple products especially in the worship department. Not all hitches but most modern churches. And the idea that android users are less likely to pay for an app is actually true. That is one of the reasons so many apps don't make it too android. I'm not discounting the nerd for android users to have it to but considering the cost of app development and resources needed to invest in it, I can completely understand why LC may be hesitant to invest in android.

Friday, March 25, 2016 - 8:41am

If you want multitrack capabilities similar to prime on Android, I suggest you look into WorshipSong Band, which runs on Windows, Mac, IOS, and Android. Its not cloud-based, so you manage songs yourself. It has some cool features, and its freeware.

Thursday, August 4, 2016 - 12:13pm

WorshipSong Band is very bad app

Thursday, August 4, 2016 - 12:23pm

If you are having an issue with Worshipsong Band and would like some support, try this link:

http://www.worshipsong.com/band/band-app-support

Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 5:19pm

Can you use Worshipsong Band with PRIME tracks? I have an Android device and also a Windows puter.

Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 9:12pm

I believe the app tracks only work in PRIME. If you have the multitracks, you can import these into Worshipsong Band using your PC, then move the resulting files to your tablet or another computer from there. It's not difficult to add markers, chords,etc once you get the hang of editing the songs.

Sunday, May 7, 2017 - 6:38am

Well for me buying the multitracks isn't a cost efficient option, since I use them only as accompaniment tracks. That's why I am hoping to either purchase an Android version of PRIME if one is released, or something similar. This site has tracks to songs that aren't available elsewhere, and the app tracks are much cheaper.

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Wednesday, May 10, 2017 - 4:46pm

Hey Lynda! Noted! =) We hope to eventually bring it to Android, but there are so many different devices, it takes a lot of time to develop for each one. Thanks for your input! =)

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 - 4:56pm

Well I've been waiting at least 3 years now. Guess this is a test of faith! LOL

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Tuesday, May 16, 2017 - 10:02am

Indeed! When we bring it out, you'll be one of the first to know! =)

Friday, July 28, 2017 - 1:47am

The decision not to include android is strictly financial. Since many of the tracks are not on any other platform, it forces those who really want them to have to buy the multitrack which of course is a lot more expensive. It's sad that android users have to pay more, but that's the business decision they have made.

Saturday, July 29, 2017 - 9:49am

It's not just financial. I work with hearing aids and run into a similar issue. Apple's platform is uniform and allows for streaming directly to hearing devices. The Android market is comprised of many different brands and each brand has their own operating system. We have to put another streaming device between the hearing aid and device it's being connected to when using an Android phone. It's just that Apple's system is consistent. I use Android too and am waiting for as solution for us too though. There are legitimate reasons they haven't worked it out though.

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Sunday, July 30, 2017 - 11:59pm

Hey Sherea..it’s definitely not a financial issue...we would love to open up our platform to android users...the biggest issue is as Janson mentioned in a post earlier that there are quite literally 10,000 different android devices on the market...all with 10,000 different hardware and OS configurations and most android users aren’t even on the current firmware for their phone....so we really can’t make a universal version of the app that works great with every device on the market...what would happen is the person that has maybe one of Samsung’s super phones gets an awesome experience and usability with the app...but then the person that owns the $20 android phone that they got from Walmart gets a crappy experience! And that’s the thing with apps...no matter if we have the latest and greatest or just the free phone that came with our plan we just expect the apps to “just work”. Our primary commitment is to excellence across the board from the tracks we produce to the app you use and if we can’t deliver the same level of excellence to the android platform that we have on the iOS side...then we just won’t do it at all...hope this makes sense! We aren,t money hungry greedy apple users that want android users to suffer...we just want to deliver an excellent experience to everyone that uses our product!

Friday, August 11, 2017 - 5:08am

I think you have set your standards too high. My advice, give it a shot on Android too, but have a disclaimer which includes some recommended device models/specs. This way people trying to use the app on a $20 phone won't actually have expectations. I do own an iPad specially for all my music related stuff, but none of the band members have an iDevice, so when I buy a track from loopcommunity, it is so frustrating that I can't give the track to the band members in advance to be able to study their part at home. We always have to gather and have listening sessions and that's a lot of time wasted. Whereas if the app was available on Android, then I'd just give them my account so they could listen all the tracks I have bought and come prepared to the rehearsal.