How do I get from one song to another?

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DaveGerhart

about 9 years ago (edited)

Just watched Matt Mccoy's videos on building a loop, adding markers then vocal cues. Great stuff! My only question is how to get from song to song if I do this with all my songs in a worship set. If I load each session, I have to allow time to load. If I import everything into one session, the markers will be all messed up. I'm sure I'm missing something . . . Dave Gerhart Associate Worship Pastor BranchCreek Community Church dave.gerhart@branchcreek.org
scoottie

about 9 years ago (edited)

This is where session view makes life easy. Drag everything from arrangement view (making sure each clip starts at 1.1.1) into a new scene in session view. This is pretty standard operating procedure. Make sure to check out the built in Ableton Live lesson that covers these two views. It's a great place to start.
DaveGerhart

about 9 years ago (edited)

Great advice, thanks! How about if I want to separate out the sections (like in the free "Mighty to Save" loop) so that I could jump around in the arrangement? Once I have my locators (verse, chorus, bridge, etc) I assume that I create a new scene for each section . . . but how?
mattmccoy

about 9 years ago (edited)

Highlight the section of the song in Arrangement view that you want, Copy, then paste into a new scene in session view.

DaveGerhart

about 9 years ago (edited)

super helpful, thanks!
wadelodge

about 9 years ago (edited)

I'm at the same place in my learning curve as Dave. I watched Matt's video as well. A couple of more questions are once the locators are set in the Arrangement view, do they have to be sliced up in order to copy and paste them into Session view as Verse, Chorus, Bridge, etc. Also, how do I set up the scenes to automatically change from one to the other once one is triggered? Thanks!
randallpatrickc

about 9 years ago (edited)

I'm interested too. I have tracks in arrange view for each of the ten instruments / BGVs in the band. They are de-lineated with locators I use with a FC. To move the whole song (all the tracks) to session view is easy but how do I then chop it up into verse/chorus/intr etc scenes? Also, where are the "... Matt Mccoy's videos on building a loop, adding markers then vocal cues..." referred to above please? Edit - aha I just found your Matt's YT vids - watching now. (Comment, might be an idea to put some "next part at" tags? Just a thought) :-). So far (as far as band cues) I'm doing what you are doing in the arrange view. I hope you then take us on to converting the arrange to session view. Great stuff. Bless you for taking the time to show others. Glad I found this community! Patrick
jeffcaylor

about 9 years ago (edited)

Hey guys, you're wanting to Google FOLLOW ACTIONS in Ableton Live. (EDIT - Follow Actions are for clips, not for scenes. You can launch clips and scenes but only clips can use Follow Actions. You can launch a whole row of clips, effectively doing the same as a scene launch but it's important to point this out). This makes life easier when one song has several sections in Session View. For what it's worth, I stopped using them for various reasons. Here are couple suggestions I wish someone gave me early on: - Don't create too many sections in a song. It's a little time consuming to set them up and your time is probably best spent learning the song instead of prepping for mishaps or giving yourself complete flexibility. I lead at least 5-10 songs a week and it doesn't help me to have every conceivable iteration, especially if you are trying to teach the band a set arrangement and the lyrics are already cued a certain way. - Try to keep your sections consistent between songs or you'll forgot what "section 3" on say, Mighty to Save is, in 6 weeks when you do it again. I keep one scene of the full track (all I usually use), a vamp section scene (looped) for talky bits, the while song starting on the verse after the first chorus (early train wreck recovery), the bridge (looped) and the chorus (looped). These 5 sections are plenty for live worship options and I always know the 2nd section is the vamp loop, etc.
wadelodge

about 9 years ago (edited)

Hey Jeff, Thanks for the tips! Could you explain a little more about what a "vamp section" is?
jeffcaylor

about 9 years ago (edited)

Hey Wade, Vamping is just when the band is playing a phrase or chord passage over and over until the director says "move on" or "stop". Sometimes you want to do this while you pray or teach or some extended section you don't really want to limit to 2 x's or 3 x's, for instance. I first heard the term in jazz music (solo sections).