REALLY new newbie needs help setting up fades between scenes in Ableton

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kgranger

about 9 years ago (edited)

Say that I have Scene 1 set to play 'Our God Saves' in C. I have a clip that's a synth pad that modulates from C up to A in Scene 2. Scene 3 is Majestic in A. I have set keyboard trigger keys to launch each scene using the SoftStep and KeyWorkx (don't have the midi interface piece yet). What I need to be able to do is fade Our God Saves out (rather than stopping completely) when I trigger Scene 2, and likewise fade out the synth clip (after it reaches A) when I trigger Scene 3 for Majestic. I'm assuming this is possible but just have not figured out how to accomplish it. Any and all suggestions welcome! Looking forward to someday providing answers for others!
scoottie

about 9 years ago (edited)

Here's what I would do. Create the fade out with the clip's envelope and make sure to remove the stop button from the cell below it. Now triggering the next scene doesn't stop the clip from continuing it's fade. If there are 3 pad sounds that you were sequentially launching you will not have to stagger them between two tracks. If this doesn't make sense let me know. I will be glad to post a video tonight when I have more time.
kgranger

about 9 years ago (edited)

Actually it does make sense but a short video would be helpful. I will try to play with this a bit during down time at work tomorrow but IF you have time to do a quick video I'd appreciate it. Would obviously save me some time.
scoottie

about 9 years ago (edited)

Sorry it took so long! https://vimeo.com/43292116

kgranger

almost 9 years ago (edited)

The wheels are starting to turn! Thanks, Dugan. This is a big help.
scoottie

almost 9 years ago (edited)

My Pleasure! :)
mrdister

almost 9 years ago (edited)

Dugan, Would there be a difference between setting a follow command to a different scene entitled "Chorus Repeat" with legato enabled versus just having a MIDI note turn on and off a cycle or loop of the current scene? Doing the latter, you could cycle any chorus, verse, or bridge instead of needing a duplicate scene for everything, or am I missing something?
scoottie

almost 9 years ago (edited)

I think I understand your question. Clips can do 2 things... either one shot and stop when they get to the end or loop. So there is no need to turn on and off looping, its setup to loop automatically. You need to tell Live when to launch the next clip or section of the song. Follow actions do it for you and a MIDI note can give you control over when clips launch. The last part of the video blends the two approaches and incorporated a count in. If I didn't duplicate the clip and use legato, the chorus clip would start with the count in. I want the chorus clip to start after the count in has finished. Yes, you could launch a count in clip with a MIDI note, then launch the chorus clip. That would be much simpler to setup but way harder to implement. The way I showed only requires 1 MIDI note to be sent to Live and it handles the count in and seamless music transition for you.
mrdister

almost 9 years ago (edited)

Thanks for the response, Dugan. The way you set it up definitely makes sense, having a separate duplicate scene with legato in order to be able to repeat the chorus and have the count-in. That's a fantastic idea. I wasn't thinking that you set up the count ins to be one measure before the loop. Yeah I can't think of any other way than this to be able to repeat a section of a song and still have a one bar count-in before the repeat. I just don't like that you have to create and MIDI map a separate scene for every part of a song that you may repeat live. I would be tempted to just have all cues come at the last measure of the previous clip. Then, I could just assign one MIDI note to play the scene again. So, if I'm in a chorus and want to repeat it on the fly, I would hit one MIDI note the measure before and have it fire off that same scene (repeat). You would lose the count-in though, which I really like about your workflow.
scoottie

almost 9 years ago (edited)

Yeah I agree. It could potentially get very messy. But I've usually found that it's usually only a chorus that gets repeated spontaneously... and hopefully a good leader will remove the need for the count in to an additional chorus. The people need to know where you're going too! :)
bwhalen2000

over 7 years ago

hello scottie dugan, May I have permission to watch your clip discussed here? When I got to vimeo, it say "permission denied". thank you, Brad

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